A Democratic plant to make Republicans look bad?

Byline: | Category: 2008 Presidential Election, Race | Posted at: Friday, 18 January 2008

Regarding the confederate flag flap in South Carolina, Mike Huckabee had this to say:

If somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag, we’d tell them what to do with the pole.

That answer will play well in a South Carolina primary. However, it would come back to haunt him in a general election almost everywhere else.

Which brings up another point: Why does Mike Huckabee have this need to campaign in such a way as to confirm stereotypes that the Republican Party is a bunch of racist theocrats?

When Fred Thompson accused Mike Huckabee that he was following the model of the Democratic Party he was right. He might also have been right to accuse Huckabee of being a Democratic plant.

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Dan Riehl agrees (ht:GR):

There was absolutely no reason for Huckabee to bring up the Confederate Flag issue in South Carolina, especially with such a coarse remark destined for a Democrat commercial in the Fall should Huckabee ever get the nod.

As does Ed Morrissey:

The media loves it. It gives the New York Times and newspapers around the country a great excuse to tie the Confederate flag to the national Republican Party. That’s an association that the rest of the party will strongly resent. Leave the flag to the South Carolinians and start talking about issues that actually matter.

Ed hints at even more evidence that Huckabee is a Democrat. Notice that he’s the only candidate in the Republican field who prefers to pander to identity politics instead of talking about issues. Mike Huckabee is clearly running in the wrong primary.

MORE:

Courtesy of TPM we learn that Americans for the Preservation of American Culture is running an ad in South Carolina supporting Mike Huckabee’s stance on the confederate flag. Does anyone know anything about this group?

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25 Responses to “A Democratic plant to make Republicans look bad?”

  1. SayUncle » Quote of the day Says:

    [...] maybe Huckabee’s not quite the panderer I thought he was: If somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag, wed tell them what to do with [...]

  2. Sean Braisted Says:

    Yep, Democratic plant…because as you know we Democrats just LOVE the idea of a flat sales tax, writing the bible into the Constitution, and the most aggressive anti-immigration plan as possible.

    Come on Bob, this is the GOP’s strategy in 2000 and 2004 coming to bite you in the ass…you reap what you sew.

  3. Kaitian Says:

    Sean, I extremely doubt that. He’s been creating all this awareness on issues that barely came onto the radar and people go “Oh that sounds cool” and at the same time created “WTF” statements.

    The bible crap is what pushed it over the edge because no one cared about that crap and it starting to make us question whether it’s for real or not. Fred Thompson had it right, he is a Democrat posing as a Republican.

  4. Buzz Says:

    Sean:

    I know this way over your head, but usually when someone is a “PLANT” they behave in a DECEPTIVE MANNER. They may even say things contrary to things they’ve said in the past, like Huckabee has on every other issue.

  5. mbs Says:

    The Huckster says so many outrageous, stupid things that you know he can never be elected. That’s why the dems and the lamestream media love him. He is Howard Dean without the manic episode.

    snipe

  6. Volunteer Voters » Mike Huckabee Takes Up For The Confederacy, Suggests Unnatural Acts Says:

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  7. Jon Ravin Says:

    Hey Sean: Ever the illiterate Dem – it’s “sow”, not “sew”.

  8. Greg Connely Says:

    He means his style, shameless pandering, is that of a Democrat, not his substance. I don’t know that any major Democrat, aside from Edwards, is a shameless panderer, but I know that Huckabee sure is.

    (And it is “sow” as in farming/gardening, not “sew”. Unless that was a clever reference to the flag issue, in which case, bravo.)

  9. Stop The ACLU » Blog Archive » Huckabee, What Would Jesus Do With a Flag Pole? Says:

    [...] Bob Krumm points out that Americans for the Preservation of American Culture are running pro-Huckabee ads in South Carolina. [...]

  10. mbn Says:

    Sean,

    I feel the need to educate a fellow Democrat. If you haven’t already realized that a Mike Huckabee nomination would virtually guarantee a Dem in the white house a year from now. He has no chance in a general election and as it is he’s muddling up the field for the serious Republican candidates (Romney, McCain, Giuliani). Let’s hope that there are enough evangelicals in South Carolina and Florida to keep him in the race and let’s hope they don’t realize just how great of a choice Huck is for us Democrats.

    As for him being a Democrat plant, I’m not so sure about that but there is a Clinton in this race and as much as we all loved Bill in the white house we have to also remember that as a team they are, shall we say, rather “astute” in campaign politics. As wild as this campaign has been thus far I wouldn’t rule anything out.

    Remember, a vote for Huck is a vote for Jesus!

  11. Tennesseefree.com » Mike Huckabee and Ramming Flag Poles Says:

    [...] pile on Mike Huckabee as much as the next guy, and I understand the political implications of what Krumm, SayUncle, and AC are saying about Mike Huckabee’s statement concerning South Carolinians and [...]

  12. Squid Says:

    Sean,

    The point is that Huck is behaving not as a Democrat would, but as a Democratic cariacture of a Republican would. Your first hint as to this is easily inferred from the post: few Democratic leaders outside of Sen. Byrd would campaign on the Confederate Flag issue.

    Believe it or not, the Republican party is not some monolithic group of racist bible-thumping wife-beating CEOs. For that to be true, you’d need to admit the equal likelihood of the Democratic party being a monolithic group of atheist socialist abortionist homosexuals. I don’t see why it’s so hard to believe that neither cariacture is true.

    Huck is out there saying stupid things that write their own Democratic campaign commercials. He’s a walking, talking self-inflicted attack ad. You may not choose to believe it, but there are a lot of us sophisticated enough to recognize this and criticize him for it.

    Honestly, you would do well to rid yourself of your simplistic understanding of your political rivals. Underestimating your competitors is a big mistake to make when the stakes are high.

  13. H. B. Keats Says:

    He has no chance in a general election…

    As wild as this campaign has been thus far I wouldn’t rule anything out.

    Remember, a vote for Huck is a vote for Jesus!

    Americans tend to love ‘em some Jesus. Huckabee is also really likable. That matters.

    I would say an assessment of “no chance” is overconfident, especially if the Democrats pull another suicide attempt by nominating Clinton over Obama.

  14. Sean Braisted Says:

    Believe it or not, the Republican party is not some monolithic group of racist bible-thumping wife-beating CEOs.

    Perhaps not, but none of the candidates are attempting to appeal to all Republicans and Republican-leaners with their rhetoric; they all have chosen various constituencies to target.

    Huckabee has evidently decided to go after half-retard, confederate sympathizing Evangelicals…a sizable constituency in South Carolina [see: Republican Primary 2000].

  15. Jon Kay Says:

    Notice that he’s the only candidate in the Republican field who prefers to pander to identity politics instead of talking about issues.

    Does that mean you really believe all the things Romney’s been spouting (IMHO he’s the worst this year, making even Edwards look tame)? Or think Giuliani meant it

    comparing Bush to Lincoln
    ? Or what about
    Romney on Spanish?

    Give it up. Pandering is bipartisan. Dems were worse in ’04, I think, but not this time.

  16. Sean Braisted Says:

    And it is “sow” as in farming/gardening, not “sew”. Unless that was a clever reference to the flag issue, in which case, bravo.

    Sure, we’ll go with that, or I had just woken up and hadn’t had any coffee…but I like your version :-)

  17. bob Says:

    John,
    Operative phrase “identity group”. I never said anything about Republicans not pandering. Heck, just about all of them supported ethanol before Iowa. That’s as obvious a pander as there is. But only Huckabee is busy pandering to an identity group. The particular identities being southerners and evangelicals. Iowa farmers, on the other hand, are an interest group, not an identity group.

  18. Sean Braisted Says:

    Cantankerous old Conservatives aren’t an identity group?

  19. bob Says:

    Sean,
    No. For the thousandth time no. Identities are what you are born with: color, ethnic group, being a southerner, etc. That is different from a group united by ideas. Democrats like Hillary and Huckabee prefer to appeal to identity groups on the basis that they’re all alike. Republicans like Fred want to talk about ideas.

  20. Sean Braisted Says:

    Heh, so by skipping the “yankee” contests in favor of South Carolina, is Fred not playing to the Southern identity group?

  21. bob Says:

    Review your history; Iowa fought on the “yankee” side.

  22. Sean Braisted Says:

    Yeah, and when he found out he couldn’t win there, he packed it up to play to the Confederates.

  23. Jon Kay Says:

    Whoops! I meant Thompson, not Romney on the Spanish quote. That’s important later in this reply:

    So, bob, pandering is OK when Republicans do it, but not when Democrats do it, and we’ll make up some random distinction if we have to so we don’t.

    Republicans like Fred want to talk about ideas.

    …you mean, ideas like Fred’s identity-group pander to people raised only on English? Don’t tell me – you have another excuse why it’s not the same. True – I agree he doesn’t pander AS MUCH AS Huck or Mitt, but according to your standard, he did an evul Democrat-style pander.

    And Bush in ’00 certainly executed his share of identity-group panders (Bob Jones U, anybody?), for which the GOP hated him so much they nominated him.

  24. buzz Says:

    “people raised only on English” is an identity group? For starters, I don’t recall him criticizing people for learning languages in addittion to English, just saying they should learn English. So once we’ve removed your red herring, the “identity group” you speak of is also known as “US citizens”. Great to know that libs consider them just another identity group.

  25. Jon Kay Says:

    “people raised only on English” is an identity group?

    By Bob’s own definition of how you were raised. I won’t bother arguing, though, because it seems to me a distinction without a difference.

    Aren’t the things that really matter what’s involved in the pander, and what kind of group is being pandered to (some bad ones include neoconfederates in Huck’s case, Islamic terror groups and Commies on the far left, and Paul’s newsletters pandering to racists).