The smallest minority

Byline: | Category: Culture, Education | Posted at: Monday, 21 May 2007

I was concerned that in the sea of humanity this evening, I wouldn’t be able to locate “my” graduate. My friend was one of dozens of young adults with freshly minted diplomas from our local public high school. Luckily, the color-coding made it easier to locate my friend. There were yellow sashes for International Baccalaureate program graduates, blue and gold cords for members of the National Honor Society, and green cords for those graduating with academic honors. My friend was a member of the small minority of graduates with all three awards.

But my friend was a member of a still smaller color-coded minority. Instead of wearing the white graduation gowns the women graduates wore, he wore green, making him one of only two male graduates with awards in all three areas.

Men, while not quite islands of green in a sea of white gowns, made up only 108 of the class of approximately 240 graduates. That’s 45%, which isn’t too far from half. But when it came to academic honors, green gowns were much less common. Distiguished Scholars: 10 of 41, National Honor Society: 6 of 27, International Baccalaureate Program: 8 of 24–roughly three times more women than men were rigorously prepared to succeed in college.

I came home and told my wife of the utter disparity. She gave voice to something I, too, had been thinking when she said, “I would have thought it would been the opposite.” Her logic was that since it is women, and not men, who tend to leave school due to an unplanned pregnancy, that there would be a disproportionate lack of female graduates. To the extent that this phenonenon occurs–and I’m sure it does, it obscures an even more dire situation for men.

If this local pattern is the national norm, we are in the midst of creating a generation of male failure.

Apparently it is getting to be the norm. A 2005 NPR interview quotes a Pell Institute scholar who found that by the late 1970s women had caught up to men in high school graduation rates, and by the early 80s they had caught up in college graduation rates. That’s the good news. The bad news is that since then, men have lost even more than women gained. Two years ago American colleges awarded 200,000 more degrees to women than to men.

What a change from not too long ago. The mother of a very good friend of mine once told me of her high school days, when at the beginning of senior year she was told that she couldn’t enroll in calculus. Even though she was academically well qualified, it was only for aspiring engineers, and since she was a girl, and girls . . . well, couldn’t be engineers . . . That was less than fifty years ago.

The conventional wisdom is that women are academically disadvantaged. There are programs to keep women in school during and after a pregnancy; there are programs to interest more women in math and sciences; there’s “Bring your daughter to work day;” and of course, there’s Title IX. But the truth appears to be the opposite: it is men who need more help getting prepared for and graduating from college.

Much like our misguided welfare systems still focuses on the prevention of starvation when it is obesity that is the greater nutritional problem associated with poverty, our gender-based education programs now target the wrong sex for academic improvement. That puts boys at an even greater disadvantage since, unlike as for girls, there aren’t well-organized and powerful “male special interest groups” that will fight to give boys the boost they need.

But there probably should be, and it is women who should be among boys’ biggest supporters. That is, they should be if the they hope to meet a high school and college graduate waiting for them at the end of the aisle the next time they wear a white gown.

UPDATE:

Related links courtesy of Glenn Reynolds:

Where the boys aren’t
The reverse gender gap iceberg

2nd UPDATE:

I’ve been fortunate enough to receive lots of Mr. Reynolds links before, but this link from the better half of the Reynolds blogging duo is my first. Dr. Helen had this to say:

I used to think that special interest groups were silly and a waste of time–thinking they emphasized victimhood at the expense of autonomy, but I am beginning to think I was wrong.

Mark, commenting below, expressed similar well-founded skepticism:

. . . when do such programs actually do anything useful?

However, I think Mark hit on something when he related his own daughter-raising experience:

My gut instinct . . . is that parents are simply more cognizant of getting their girls prepared for education. Maybe [it's] that extra awareness of the glass ceiling and the rougher row girls are likely to hoe . . . [edited for clarity]

There is probably something to the notion that “awareness” is the cause for women excelling and boys being left behind–in which case, it’s time to become aware of a new problem.

3rd UPDATE:

A few commenters to this post (as well as other bloggers who linked to it) have some reading comprehension issues.  More here.

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41 Responses to “The smallest minority”

  1. ken harkins Says:

    It is males who need the help. I have taught 6th grade through freshman college classes, and I have found that females are more prepared at all levels. I favor single sex classes. I once had a small all-boys class that took a complete nosedive in performance when a single girl was assigned at mid-term.

  2. Santiago Says:

    So one antedotal tale of fewer men with honors than women and the shocking (Huh?) revelation that more women than men are getting diplomas is supposed to inspire concern?

    Perhaps, and this is just a thought, but perhaps 200,000 more women than men getting diplomas doesn’t mean that fewer men are getting diplomas, but more women are?

  3. Tom Says:

    Bob

    Next step should be to go visit an elementary school and watch a class for a few hours. The teachers are all female, the methods and manners in the classroom are designed to empower the girls. Boys are the odd man out and I think that part of the problem in education today is that they are being alienated to make sure the girls get a fair shake.
    If they learn that school is a place where they are not especially wanted or happy, how can you expect them to achieve later on in these institutions.

  4. RKV Says:

    Its naive to think that the goal of feminism was equality. It always was about domination. Men are evil, right? Wymn are victims, and therefore morally superior. Humbug.

  5. A generation of male failure? at Amused Cynic Says:

    [...] also noticed the phenomenon this writer describes—the vast preponderance of females receiving academic awards at graduation [...]

  6. Drtaxsacto Says:

    Bob-

    Look a bit more at the numbers and it gets even more troubling. In most four year colleges, public and independent, almost 60% of the undergraduates are female.

    We should be trying to get the best out of all our students – but sadly, that is not happening. But there has been very little serious study about why this change has happened. Some suggest changes in the composition of K-12 faculty (although there is little evidence that could be a factor); others have suggested that changes in the way we teach core subjects (especially Math and English) caused the drop in male enrollments; still others suggest an economic motive (males looking for the shorter term reward of an immediate job). But none of the explanations are very satisfying. We need to figure out the causes and then suggest solutions which will bring us back – our economy cannot afford to run on half its capacity.

  7. Hucbald Says:

    Humbug. My high school sweetheart was saludatorian and went to a prestigious university. I was a lackluster student who went to a state school before transferring to a music school. All these years later my former girlfriend is a CPA while I went on the get an MM, and during my DMA studies I was dean’s list every semester. It’s obvious to me that many talented male students are simply not interested in school when they are teenagers: They are interested in girls. I know I wasn’t interested in school except as a place to meet females. It wasn’t until I was “allowed” to study what I wanted and had a couple of relationships under my belt (ahem) that I began to perform better. This doesn’t worry me in the least.

  8. Rob Says:

    Just an anecdote, my wife graduated magna cum laude in high school. Ditto in college. In fact, the only ‘B’ she ever got (having just finished her PhD) was in one graduate class, where the prof. apparently didn’t believe in giving ‘A’s. My high school vale dictorian was also female. But in grad school, i don’t have strong evidence, but it seems pretty much gender equal. Perhaps men are not as encouraged as women in academia, nowadays, I don’t have answers. But i do know my wife is nearly brilliant in her field (medical physics). I’m no slouch either (biochemistry), but i’m among equals, whereas she has proven excellence.

  9. Mark Buehner Says:

    I wonder… I think the effects of ‘girl empowerment’ by the schools is probably overstated- when do such programs actually do anything useful? My gut instinct (and its just that) is that parents are simply more cognicent of getting their girls prepared for education. Maybe thats extra awareness of the glass ceiling and the rougher row girls are likely to hoe, and maybe part of it is just the assumption that boys should be self sufficiant and a little wreckless. I just tend to believe the power of parents is much more likely to be responsible for this than the traditionally toothless and meandering government initiatives.

  10. Rob Says:

    I observed the same thing at the graduations of my two children from high school. I ran a simple test of significance on the numbers from my daughter’s class, and the null hypothesis (that boys and girls were equally likely to be honor students) was strongly rejected.

    In my kids’ experience, grade school wasn’t bad. The girl-centric curriculum really kicked into high gear from middle school through the end of high school.

    The demographics don’t lie. Boys are slowly disappearing from the educational process.

  11. roux Says:

    A self fulfilling prophecy. Tell boys and men that they are bumbling fools and it may come true.

    Public school is set up to accommodate girls, the boys should sit down and shut up.

  12. Lorraine Says:

    My family noticed this trend over the past few years at the graduations of my son, nephew and niece. My nephew’s class had 13 valedictorians – all girls. The other graduations were similar.

    In my 8th grade son’s honors classes, girls far outnumber the boys. Now it could be as one commenter suggested, that boys just aren’t as interested in school at younger ages and then catch up later, but it’s disturbing none the less.

    Several year’s ago, my eldest son’s football team only had one boy who had good enough grades to go to anything but a local community college – out of 60+ boys. You could say that football attracts dumb boys, but I think that boys are given a pass to not do well academically as long as they are the sport stars. These boys got away with everything. This particular class was so bad, one of their teachers told me that it made her think of leaving teaching.

    Since my son will be taking all honors classes next year in high school, and plays football and basketball, it will be interesting to see if the trend continues.

  13. Peenie Wallie Says:

    Acutally, what you’re seeing that is colleges don’t matter any more, and women love to get diplomas. Men have realized that, in a dynamic, technology driven world, the curriculum being taught is less and less relevant. Most women I know continue to go to college, or want to go to college, to get degreed as much as possible. Men are much less likely to attend post-graduate training. But this, to me, is no cause for alarm. This is not particularly relevant, IMHO. What is relevant is to look at success in the workforce. Men are still the dominant force in the private sector, and this will never change. Men are the ones that start companies, keep them efficient and competitive, and earn the highest salaries. Women, on the other hand, attend college for all of their natural lives, and work in the public sector.

  14. Dad Says:

    I noticed the same phenomenom at my kids’ school. On the one hand the young women achieving so much deserve the credit they are getting. The boys that come from exactly the same gene pool, have exactly the same teachers, use exactly the same textbooks, live in the exactly the same communities and are parented by exactly the same parents should be achieving in similar proportion. There is obviously a bias built into the system, could be the curriculum, could be the teachers. Even is it could be proven that female students are harder workers and more interested in good grades that wouldn’t relieve the school of its responsibilites to meet the needs of all their students as they find them.

  15. mrbill Says:

    This is a very troubling situation. I recently spoke with a retired chief of police from a large metropolitan area and he said this trend is going to be a nightmare. He is already seeing large groups of what are essentially roving bands of under educated and unemployed males. These would not and are not necessarily the classical “gang” types. But just males that are “hanging” and they can not get jobs.

    He is also seeing another trend from large corporations, the have always checked to see if new people had a Felony arrest, but he is seeing some that are now looking at anyone with ANY type of trouble, even a misdemeanor. He is now afraid they are creating entire classes of people, mostly young males, that are entirely unemployable to do anything….

    He is saying these companies are setting up a terrible situation for the rest of society.

    Where do you think these people will eventually get food or shelter….especially with young males, they will be with young females…and eventually have babies…soon.

    They will take it. From YOU or Someone.

  16. James Says:

    I saw this phenomenon in my high school first-hand. 3 girl valedictorians and 1 guy. The thing is, the girls weren’t really that smart (except one of them, maybe), they were just better tied into the system. They knew what it took to get a good grade in a class, and were very focused on doing so. They participated in the school newspaper and journalist club, etc., and knew the teachers personally. The other smart guys, myself included, left academics at school when we went home for the day (and might I add, who would really want to hang out with their HS teachers all afternoon and go on field trips with them?). So as you can imagine, the girls were nominated for many of the awards at graduation (and these awards had financial implications at my school), and got the best recommendation letters. Lucky for me, I still got into a prestigious university, and excelled once in college. But many other guys I knew, quite a few of them at least as intelligent as myself, if not more so, ended up at community college. It just goes to show that academics are about personal connections and buying into a certain culture and atmosphere, not just intelligence or hard work. And I think guys are innately disadvantaged in our current academic environment.

  17. Ali Says:

    I don’t think this is a problem. Collecting degrees is nice, but good paying jobs and financial independence is the end game. The graduation rate disparities may reflect that most young women feel that they need a leg up in order to compete with men in the business world. Until women start making substantially more than men, there’s no reason to consider these educational successes to be anything but positive.

  18. Daily Pundit » The Soft Tyranny Says:

    [...] Bob Krumm » The smallest minority Apparently it is getting to be the norm. A 2005 NPR interview quotes a Pell Institute scholar who found that by the late 1970s women had caught up to men in high school graduation rates, and by the early 80s they had caught up in college graduation rates. That’s the good news. The bad news is that since then, men have lost even more than women gained. Two years ago American colleges awarded 200,000 more degrees to women than to men. [...]

  19. sestamibi Says:

    #4 RKV: You nailed it. Imagine what America will be like under President Hillary and a Congress full of Nancy Pelosis.

    #15 mrbill: Go rent “Fight Club” (1999) with Brad Pitt and Edward Norton. Very illuminating film about such men, who when not beating each other senseless, in their waiter jobs pee in the soup to be served at banquets at which feminists give awards to each other.

    In Nineteen Eighty-Four George Orwell cast a vision of the future as “a boot stamping on a human face–forever.” He didn’t envision that the boot would be a stiletto heel and that the face would have a beard.

  20. Stan Smith Says:

    Not so sure I buy the whole concept of men getting the short end of the stick in our society. But, one thing I’ll say is that this piece was definitely written by a male whose poor performance in statistics, anthropology, current events and critical thinking must have gone unnoticed by his Amazonian rulers.

    Do you really really think this is a problem? Really?

    Oh no! mr bill reports that its causing bands of lawless shiftless aimless males to take to the streets! Haha.

    More women getting degrees, to me, is just as likely to be indicative of the shrinking of their worth. And this supposition is backed by just as much analysis and fact as the piece to which this is a response.

    Stan Smith

  21. cynic Says:

    Most CEOs are men. Most prisoners are men. Most graduates are women.

    It may be that all of these differences are due to systematic character differences between the sexes.

    I find it hard to believe they are all caused by systematic discrimination against one sex.

    I find it harder to trust anyone who claims that anything that disadvantages one sex is due to discrimination, but whenever the other sex draws the short straw, that is because they are inherently inferior in some way.

    Obviously I have no faith in women’s rights groups. Or men’s rights groups.

    With luck they will neutralise each other, and then we can try to find out what is actually happening.

  22. Tommy the Cat Says:

    It seems to me that we’re looking at a few statistics under a bell jar. I can understand why, since it’s quite suicidal to qualitatively differentiate between the study of Franco-Prussian Maginot Graffiti and quantum physics. Even on Sesame St. we know that one of these things is not like the other.

    As far as I can see, it is impossible to arrive at a salient conclusion without acknowledging this elephant in the corner of the room, unless of course we are honestly willing to accept that a Maria Goeppert-Mayer and a Kim F Curtis achieved 4.0 GPA require similar amounts of raw academic ability and rigor to acquire. In the meantime, painstakingly painting oranges red as we do will continue to not make them apples.

    From Kindergarten to Phd’s, most academic curricula and agendas (political and social) openly promote current female ideals, since they are just “better”. Young men need to be pragmatic to survive, and cynical to thrive in this environment. Our academic systems (especially in higher education) perceive and accept stereotypical maleness as a burlesque dancer would be accepted in a mosque. Until that changes, many males will shun participation. They are what they are, and they know that their normal behavior is no more and no less relevant than that of their female counterparts’, in spite of being continually told otherwise.

  23. Peter Says:

    The tilting of higher education towards women would not be a problem if there wasn’t such a concerted effort to drive down blue collar wages with uncontrolled illegal immigration.
    When I was a boy a good job, say sheetrocker, in construction paid as well as a junior exec in a bank. Most men stayed in the trades.
    Now try and find English spoken at a construction site.

  24. Robert B Says:

    I think the trend you’ve noticed has less to do with male achievement than it has to do with academic institutional achievement. For a host of reasons, universities are becoming increasingly irrelevant to a large segment of men, and this trend will continue for decades to come. Here are a few reasons why:

    1) Academia–from the universities through pre-kindergarden–has been increasingly feminized over the last 40 years. As a result, it is ill-equiped to handle male aggression. Instead, it seeks to stigmatize, marginalize, suppress, and medicate male aggression out of existence. Male aggression used to be met with male aggression; i.e. the threat of being sent to the principal’s office, who was almost always a male authority figure. Now, male aggression is met with educational bureaucracy that is largely administered by women who don’t want to hurt anybody’s feelings. Coupled with the absence of men in so many homes, little boys learn very quick that there are no significant consequences for bad behavior and very little benefit to learning to control themselves–particularly when their cohorts are out of control.

    2) Universities are becoming increasingly irrelevant. One of the reasons is that so many disciplines have embraced post-modernism. Post-modernism is an intellectual cancer that is destroying every discipline it overtakes. It breeds intellectual mediocrity, political radicalism, and economic irrelevance. Ambitious men with an economic interest in their futures will be hard pressed to justify spending 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars for such nonsense. Having said that, there are certain disciplines that are still relatively immune from the ideological rot that has overtaken the arts, humanities, and social sciences. After all, who wants their bridges or airliners designed by post-modenists? My guess is that you’ll still find a high percentage of high achieving men in engineering and the hard sciences.

    3) There are too many opportunities for ambitious young males that don’t require a college education. I agree with Peenie Wallie. For young men who are technically oriented, spending 4 years in college may hold them back. Their icons are Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, and Larry Ellison (all college dropouts), not Lawrence Summers, the former Harvard President who was “castrated” by an MIT scientist for asking her to think about the natural inclinations of boys and girls, and later thrown overboard by his arts and sciences faculty for being too much of a leader.

  25. DadOf4 Says:

    I’m going through the grief of getting a son (senior this year) successfully graduated from high school, and it is going down to the wire, even though he has already been accepted to the top 4 most selective state schools in our state. He has miserable grades, and constantly flirts with failing necessary classes.

    But his test scores, both in specific subjects and in general aptitude, are consistently 2 sigma above the mean. He knows his stuff.

    I was somewhat similar, a generation ago. The main difference? In my day, great test scores alone (not just on standardized tests but also on classroom quizzes, prelims, and finals) were enough to earn you mediocre grades. Today, test scores earn you squat. It is the handing in of mickey-mouse assignments on time that gets you top grades today.

    Grades today do not reflect learning, they reflect obedience. This is what modern boys have the most trouble with. The boys are probably learning the material just fine, they’re just not doing the work. And when I look at the lame assignments my son has, I have a hard time blaming him for blowing them off.

  26. Ed Says:

    This phenomenon has been observed across the U.S. In my local school district, girls outnumber boys on honors lists, etc, by typically 2 or 3 to 1.

    Oddly, the same district has several programs exclusively for girls to provide introductions to computer science and information systems, biology and other science and engineering topics. They have no programs for boys, and definitely none that are “boys only”. I discussed this with the district administration and their explanation was they know about this problem of achievement disparity (noting that it is national is scope), but they get grants for providing girl only special programs and none for boys.

    The data now say we’ve gone too far in the other direction, but the grant money continues to flow to providing special programs for girls and none for boys.

  27. Dan Says:

    “It’s the system’s fault” seems to be the dominant response here. And the responders may be right.

    I wonder, however, if these individuals would come the same conclusions if the two categories of students being discussed were blacks and whites?

  28. B-Rob Says:

    Anyone who claims that the disparity is due to “female centered” teaching styles, etc., is full of crap. First off, when, pray tell, did this supposed female centered teaching start, seeing as, in the US, females have historically dominated teaching, but only recently have girls outstripped boys in academic performance.

    In addition, how do the “female centered” thesis advocates explain the similar gender disparities that Boston College researchers found in Sri Lanka, Italy, China, Russia, Japan and Britain. Has the whole world sudden gone “female centered”?

    Finally, the argument, Robert B, that “college doesn’t matter any more” is so obviously stupid and erroneous that one shudders to think the commentator is allowed to operate heavy equipment. Hello, McFly! College graduate earnings outstrip non-graduate earnings MORE than they did 20 years ago.

    Let’s face a few facts:

    1) females now outnumber males in every US graduate field of study except two: engineering and computer science.. That means in chemistry, physics, law, medicine, etc., there are more women studying on the graduate level than men.

    2) At colleges throughout the US, affirmative action for males is quietly prevalent. Even so, females make up about 66% of the applicants at UNC Chapel Hill according to one article I read. Dumbing down the standards for men, alas, is the popular method used to ensure something near a 50/50 gender ratio.

    3) All the US feminist domination possible does not explain why there are more women in college in Italy than men. Ditto India.

    What could explain tyhe disparity? The same tyhing that explains the inability of White Americans to dominate in the NBA while Euros do just fine: the Euros simply work harder and earn the same rewards White Americans would earn if they worked as hard.

  29. John Says:

    Maybe men just get tired of competing for gold-stars from mediocre bureaucrats sooner than women. Maybe because their egos aren’t being stroked as much for ‘empowering’ themselves. Maybe they realize it’s all a crock, and they just want to get on with it. Maybe they know that nothing in academia is real, and that the contest begins AFTER graduation. With real life, for real money, in a real world with real consequences. Maybe because men learn early on that academic achievement ultimately represents a very small part one’s life-skills toolkit.

    Maybe they’re just not as hungry for a pat on the head, being told they’re extra special, by someone for whom they have only contempt.

    Or, hey, maybe I’m just projecting…

  30. Brown Line Says:

    I’m a father of five, three boys and two girls. Two of the boys and both girls are grown and have left our home; the fifth – the caboose – is still in grammar school.

    Both girls went to college – one to Grinnell, the other to Coe College, in Cedar Rapids. Both did quite well academically. Both the boys, though, enlisted in the Marines, and both have served in Iraq. All four are equally smart, but the girls thrived in the academic environment, or at least were able to come to terms with it; but the boys, who are equally intelligent, hated school.

    I would have to say that the culture of passivity promoted by schools, and particularly the fact that far too many administrators and counsellors view masculinity as a disease, influenced my sons’ decision. The country has benefitted from their decision; but 20 years from now, they’ll likely be reporting to some girl who has a degree in social sciences or liberal arts.

  31. carly Says:

    Middle and high school classes are boring. The curriculum is mostly geared to preparing the kids to take tests and the teachers, increasingly, are naive and not very bright because having to teach a mind-numbing test-prep syllabus discourages smart, inspired people from becoming teachers. Essentially, secondary education today is a game with set rules. Girls tend to follow rules better than boys; they tend to be more willing to go through the motions as directed even when they know the motions are stupid. That’s why boys don’t do as well in high school.

  32. JohnnyL Says:

    Business Week ran the following cover article almost 5 years ago to the day:

    I saved that issue and have used it almost as a reference when dealing with my own sons school.

  33. Tyro Says:

    It may well be that in the past, such efforts to keep women, such as your friend’s mother, out of Calculus were necessary to prevent women from dominating the academic landscape. Once those strictures are loosed and the playing field leveled, the natural result is for girls and women to rise to the top. It’s a stereotype that “girls mature faster than boys.” In so far as that’s true (for whatever reason) and that classes select for students who are conscientious and in control of themselves, it would seem that this would confer an advantage to females. That said, I don’t think it’s unfair to expect that level of conscientiousness out of boys

    Also, keep in mind that female-dominated “middle class” professions such as nursing and teaching require college degrees. By contrast, many parents might feel their sons can get by going into trades which don’t require that kind of academic background, so the looming threat reminding them of the necessity of education isn’t there.

  34. aimai Says:

    I want to thank everyone who participated on this thread for giving me the greatest belly laugh of my adult life. Damn those women who love to “get degrees” and “suck up to their teachers” by “not leaving the academics at school” like the “really smart guys.” And damn them for surprising Mr. Krumm’s wife by “Not getting pregnant” and being forced to leave school and thus leaving more space for their boyfriends to do well in their place. But as the guy who taught a “boys only” class could tell you it just takes one bad apple (a girl! eek!) in the class for the entire class to “take a nosedive.” Its certainly time for some “affirmative action” for the “real victims” here –those boys who would have really liked to do well in school but whose teachers held them back, or exposed them to the pernicious influence of high achieving girls, or something.

    aimai

  35. aimai Says:

    Oh and Robert B,

    Kudos to you for your extra credit effort to explain that Larry Summers a highly sucessful academic who rakes in the big bucks still for being highly sucessful is a “victim” of a world in which he can’t get any respect. And also for proposing that this world of degreeless males is the result of a wise decision to emulate their masculine heroes–those superstuds of the economy like Bill Gates. There should be a name for this logical leap. I think I’m going to offer it as an award called something like the “my kid will make more money playing in the NBA than working for the man award for super short white kids with no basketball talent.”

    It is absolutely a very wise plan for any young man to decide simply to be brilliant and make a lot of money. I commend such a young man, and his proud parents, for employing what I believe is known as the “Underpants gnome” plan for world domination.

    Step One: collect underpants
    Step Two: ???
    Step Three: World Domination!!

    It works every, single, time.

    aimai

  36. Nashville is Talking » Where the Boys At? Says:

    [...] Bob Krumm laments what he sees as a disparity among the sexes in graduation rates: Men, while not quite islands of green in a sea of white gowns, made up only 108 of the class of approximately 240 graduates. That’s 45%, which isn’t too far from half. But when it came to academic honors, green gowns were much less common. Distiguished Scholars: 10 of 41, National Honor Society: 6 of 27, International Baccalaureate Program: 8 of 24–roughly three times more women than men were rigorously prepared to succeed in college. [...]

  37. Oh, Men of Middle Tennessee, Bless Your Hearts « Tiny Cat Pants Says:

    [...] does a good job of deflating some of the nonsense over at that cutie Bob Krumm’s, but I feel like I must also point some stuff [...]

  38. brittney Says:

    I *heart* aimai.

  39. Bob Krumm » An army of dunces Says:

    [...] comments both on this site and at others discussing what I wrote (check the Technorati bug at the original post).  ”Roy,” for example, read into my writing that “success is actually finite, [...]

  40. bud Says:

    The K-12 public education system in the US is a joke. The fact that the output of the system is distorted in some manner is only interesting in terms of teh mechanics of the distortion, not that it occurs.

    “Education” schools are the absolute bottom of the academic pecking order, have been for years, and the result is showing. In almost every university, their students have the lowest SAT scores and the highest grades, and that should tell you eveything you need to know.

    College rates are simply a reflection of the mess created below.

  41. tyree Says:

    My father, the doctor, said 40 years ago that grade school entrance should be staggered so that boys start at 5 -1/2 years and girls start at 5.
    I wonder if any school district does this, and what are there results?

    Part of the problem is in many school districts the class that boys would naturally excel at, athletics is not a graded subject. The number of high schools with manual arts training is also plummeting. Equalizing the way the money was spent like title IX was used by the courts to punish men. I was in college when that was implemented and 10 mens teams were dropped in one year, leaving a number of Olympic contenders without a team to train with. Almost overnight boys who trained for years to get a scholarship were denied one, and the feminists didn’t care, because it was important to “teach them a lesson”. I don’t use those words lightly, that is what was said, over and over in those days.
    All I can say is, this “typical white person” is tired of being treated like a second class citizen.