Goes Both Ways Folks

Byline: | Category: Ethics, TN Politics | Posted at: Monday, 30 April 2007

From the “Left Wing Cracker”

You will never convince me, however, ESPECIALLY after the Gonzales USA scandal, that [the Tennessee Waltz] investigation was anything more than an attack on minorities and Democrats. One token Gooper is not enough to convince me, and it never will be.

Well, suit yourself, LWC, but if your bunch down there had taken care of John Ford et al on your own a long time ago, you might not have had this problem. Myself, I don’t buy the argument that Ford was targeted because he was a minority and a Democrat. If he was targeted at all, it was because he was dirty, something most Memphians have known for a long time and yet have completely disregarded time and again. And why? Well, in part because he was 1) an African-American and 2) a Democrat. You may believe that racism and partisanship played major roles in getting John Ford out of office. Fine. Believe what you want to believe. But understand this: those same two things played major roles in keeping him in office much longer than he would have been in a less dysfunctional political environment.

P.S. “Goopers”?

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4 Responses to “Goes Both Ways Folks”

  1. Gandalf Mantooth Says:

    Believe what you want to believe. But understand this: those same two things played major roles in keeping him in office much longer than he would have been in a less dysfunctional political environment.

    Pot call. Why the assumption that the colored folks get duped into electing their representatives by some evil mastermind? I hear this suggested time and time again whenever an African American elected official goes down on some legal charge. And you know he’s been dirty for a long time? Well, I “know” that if Ford is dirty, then he’s got plenty of company down at War Memorial, GOP and Dem. Any number of people would have been easy pickings for a sting had they been targeted. Notice, those who made sure to cross the “t’s” in the feds operation didn’t get stung, Rog.

    Haven’t generally agreed with LWC on much, yet as a practical matter, his theory has some merit if you consider who most stood to benefit from these events. It would have been (Another) political miscalculation on their part if it were the case, as in the end 1)Memphis will be Memphis, and there’s not going to be any GOP takeover in the wake of this and 2) there’s not going to be a residual effect on the Dem party from any of the Waltz cases.

  2. Roger A Says:

    “Why the assumption that the colored folks get duped into electing their representatives by some evil mastermind?”

    Where is that assumption made Mark? Merely said they never voted him out, by their own choice I imagine. I’m sorry you think so little of the “colored folks” that they could be duped into voting for or against anyone. I for one am perfectly comfortable with the opinion that there folks made their own choice by their own lights, even if the choice was, in the end, a wrong one.

    I’m sorry you have this racial inferiority complex (and I’m basing this on your ouevre, not just this one comment–it’s one of your most tiresome traits), but please don’t project it on others. Deal with it on your own.

  3. Roger A Says:

    Eh, upon further relfection I should say that
    “racial inferiority complex” is only possibly accurate. It’s just a guess. But I am pretty sure that–at least from his writings–Mark has a racial complex of some sort. It’s similar to the sexist complex Egalia seems to have. Everything is seen through that particular prism, whether warranted or not, and it gets old pretty quickly.

  4. gandalf mantooth Says:

    It isn’t hard to read between the lines with the line of thinking. African Americans will vote based on marching orders from above. “If your bunch had taken care of Ford . . . [.]” You think the people of his district had no agency in his tenure, that he retained power simply because of his race and his party, when you know, and I know you realize, that the situation is more complex. How long has he been serving? Since the 70′s? You know what role incumbancy plays. It’s disingenuous of you to ignore this conveniently for the sake of your point. Would it be tough for a White candidate to win there? Yes. So? Would it be tough for a Black candidate to defeat Ford, of course, so ask yourself why, especially if everyone knows he’s dirty, as you say.

    Who presented the “racial prism” here? You want to assert we aren’t discussing something with race as a component? You’re commenting on someone else’s assertion that race played a role in the Waltz prosecutions. What are we supposed to discuss, chicken salad?

    “Racial inferiority complexes: I’m not really sure you know what you mean when you use it. Some believe that people of color have absorbed negative opinions of themselves reflected in the general culture, such as believing focusing on academics is something that White people do (you do remember that I made an entire post at PITW on that, don’t you?) or that the sign of Black women straightening their hair is a sign of adopting White standards of beauty.

    Racial inferiority complexes are not “always talking about race.” Of course, perhaps if you talked about issues of race on occasion, I wouldn’t have to spend so much time holding it down. If you don’t think race is a factor on some issue (I’m interested in hearing when I have brought it up and it isn’t in your opinion, a factor) then it’s simple enough to pipe up and offer dissent. However, I suppose it’s much easier to be dismissive.