goring the environment

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By now, you’ve probably heard that former Vice President Al Gore’s 10,000 square foot Lynnwood Boulevard home consumes more energy in a month than most Nashville homes use in a year.

However, what you might not know is that the large white West Nashville home owned by the former U.S. Senator was newly renovated to include a closed loop geothermal field in order to take advantage of the non-polluting, renewable, and clean source of heating and cooling that is contained deep within the earth.

Oh wait, I’ve confused my former Tennessee Senators. It’s not the one who just won a convenient award for his global warming warning, but another one who just left office.

UPDATE:

Iowa Voice has a roundup of commentary on this story here.
Also, be sure to check out the hyperventilating response at the Huffington Post here.

And guess who else is green. Yes, the evil Chimpy McBuSHITler has not just geothermal on his Crawford ranch, but a cistern that collects rainwater instead of depleting the already strained Edwards Aquifer.

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41 Responses to “goring the environment”

  1. adam Says:

    where did you get your info?

  2. Ecotality » Another Inconvenient Truth Says:

    [...] But Nashvillian Bob Krumm, who lives not far from Gore’s big white house, says there is another ex-senator living in a Nashville mansion that shows more concern for the environment: Former U.S. Sen. Bill Frist, whose big West Nashville mansion “was newly renovated to include a closed loop geothermal field in order to take advantage of the non-polluting, renewable, and clean source of heating and cooling that is contained deep within the earth.” [...]

  3. It’s called hypocrisy : [H] Hegemonic Pundit Says:

    [...] Over at BobKrumm.com we learn that Gore’s home is a planet draining 10,000 square feet. And that Tennesee Republican Senator Bill Frist is apparently more ecologically sensitive and proactive. However, what you might not know is that the large white West Nashville home owned by the former U.S. Senator was newly renovated to include a closed loop geothermal field in order to take advantage of the non-polluting, renewable, and clean source of heating and cooling that is contained deep within the earth. [...]

  4. Gore’s Hypocrisy at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source. Says:

    [...] Wizbang Stop The ACLU RedState Don Surber PoliPundit Outside the Beltway Blue Crab Boulevard Captain’s Quarters Flopping Aces Hot Air The Anchoress Right Voices Bob Krumm (who points out an interesting fact) [...]

  5. carole Says:

    AL GORE is a hero…
    he’s trying his best to wake people up…the earth is in trouble.
    corporations don’t care…
    your grandchildren’s survival depend on people like AL GORE…
    WAKE UP…
    YOU FOOL

  6. bob Says:

    Adam, I’m a commercial builder in Nashville. Last summer I was working with a local hvac subcontractor to design a geothermal system for a small office building. I asked the owner of the company if they had experience with smaller geothermal systems and if they found them to be economically viable. In response he told me that they had just completed installing the loop on Senator Frist’s home.

    And given the size of Vice President Gore’s heating and cooling bills, I would imagine that he could benefit from a geothermal system as well.

  7. John Says:

    Why do people like carole always assume that capital letters are truer than the small ones?

    carole, Al Gore is a hypocrite. He wants us to conserve energy, but he won’t do it himself.

  8. Hilary Says:

    Carol, it appears that the wake-up call is for you– and the Goracle– whose hypocrisy, it appears, has no bounds. “Save the Planet but leave my utility guzzling, grotesque mansion alone! I did create the Internet afterall!!”

    An INCONVENIENT truth, indeed.

  9. Hilary Says:

    …or as George Orwell so aptly warned us in his story “1984″– “some pigs are more equal than others.”

  10. John Says:

    What does it mean to purchase “offsets” for the carbon footprint? If everyone in the U.S. did that, and the total consumption of non-renewable energy resources and production of pollutants harmful to the environment went down substantially, then it would seem that Al Gore is, in fact, leading by example. If otherwise, then one could rightly say he is hypocritical. This is a situation where the two sides could probably resolve the debate by some further factual analysis. Does anyone know? Seriously, I’m interested in a non-partisan way.

  11. BizzyBlog » You’d Like to Think …. Says:

    [...] UPDATE: Meanwhile, the former US Senator from Tennessee described here probably won’t see much praise for his conservation efforts. The fact that the other former US Senator from Tennessee — the one who produced a fantasy disguised as a documentary — is the wasteful one, while the conservative is the real conservationist, is a ready-made attention-getting news story that will probably never get past the center-right blogosphere. [...]

  12. The Right Nation Says:

    Al Gore: un Oscar per l’ipocrisia…

    Clamorosa scoperta del Tennessee Center for Policy Research. Secondo il Nashville Electric Service, la casa di Al Gore – situata appunto nei pressi di Nashville, in Tennessee – consuma più elettricità in un mese di quanto una famiglia americana media…

  13. Robbins Mitchell Says:

    …..yet another example of phonius balonius from anAL GOREtentive…..which is why his so called movie has picked up the name ‘A Convenient Diaperload’

  14. Kenneth Greenlee Says:

    John said:

    “What does it mean to purchase “offsets” for the carbon footprint? If everyone in the U.S. did that, and the total consumption of non-renewable energy resources and production of pollutants harmful to the environment went down substantially, then it would seem that Al Gore is, in fact, leading by example.”

    John, impossible by definition. No, I am not familiar with any particulars of the carbon offset market; I’m just using common sense. Someone in the market HAS to do the conserving for you. We all, by market definition, cannot buy offsets.

    Anyways, even if Gore is doing all this offsetting blah blah, who cares? He’s still gobbling up HUGE amounts of energy, Green or otherwise, energy that can no longer go towards heating and cooling dozens of more modest homes. NB: I am a libertarian conservative and don’t care per se what Gore does privately; just pointing out the ‘pocricy.

  15. Drake Says:

    And the Academy sycophants that applaud and award Mr. Gore? Can we look into their records as well? I guarantee the majority of them utilize more resources jetsetting around the globe than me and my family.

  16. John Says:

    >>> …the earth is in trouble.

    The nice thing about the internet is that in ten or twenty or a hundred years, when people look around and see that the earth hasn’t exploded and that Manhattan isn’t submerged, the chicken littles of the world will have a hard time denying their predictions of global cataclysm.

    There will be a day when people watch television programs about the global warming hysteria and mock it like 1940′s Roswell flying saucer documentaries or the Bermuda Triangle.

  17. JudyLou Says:

    John says “There will be a day when people watch television programs about the global warming hysteria and mock it like 1940’s Roswell flying saucer documentaries or the Bermuda Triangle.”

    You wish. I doubt it. Did you really *see* “An Inconvenient Truth”? If you didn’t, you’re standing on pretty shaky ground asserting what you do. Facts are facts. Reality has a liberal bias.

    And what if global warming *is* true, and we stood by and did nothing when we had the chance? Would you just say, “Oh well, we’re all going to die of something sometime anyway.” My answer to that is: “True, but how much suffering do you want to endure before you die?” And how much suffering will you leave for your children and grandchildren?

    If global warming is true and we do nothing, it will be the end of the human race. We will have crapped in our own nest to the point we can no longer live. The earth will endure; humans probably won’t.

  18. willis Says:

    “What does it mean to purchase “offsets” for the carbon footprint?”

    You need to ask Big Al. He’s made the assertion, but never provided the specifics. For someone so gung-ho on fighting carbon, you’d think he’d be promoting his “offsets program.”

  19. TheManTheMyth Says:

    Judy–”reality has a liberal bias” — thanks, I haven’t laughed so hard in months!

  20. TheManTheMyth Says:

    Judy–on your logic, I suppose you should become a Muslim. After all, what if it “is” true–then you’ll otherwise be burning in a lake of fire for all eternity. Your variation of “Pascal’s Wager” is a logical fallacy. Is this what you meant by your “reality has a liberal bias” joke?

  21. Drake Says:

    You have quite a few ‘ifs’ in your comment Judylou and the ‘cry wolf’ mentality that so pervades the radical eco movement.

    You see, we’ve heard this before only 25 years ago it was supposed to be the next ice age instead of warming. Climate models are just that-models and speculation, they are notoriously suspect.

    The fact is Gore doesn’t do what he wants us peons to do, and that cannot be overlooked.

  22. Katherine Coble Says:

    Hilary, that was not 1984…it was Animal Farm.

  23. PsychoPhil - Drink More Beer Says:

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  24. Charles Butler Says:

    “And what if global warming *is* true, and we stood by and did nothing when we had the chance?”

    I hope it is true! Siberia and Canada would get 3 crops in a year. When you look at the geologic history – warmer is better. Ice ages show species die offs (last Ice Age almost ended the Human race and might have done in the Neanderthals). I can show you models which show that a warmer Earth results in LOWER sea levels, smaller storms (Hurricanes/Typhoons) and more rainfall for desert areas (and there is Prehistoric evidence for this). You end up with more moisture in the atmosphere causing an Earth-wide leveling of temperatures (lower highs and higher lows).

    Would this happen? We DON’T know. That is the problem with ALL the Global Warming models. There is not enough Data to say what is currently happening much less what may happen 100 years from now. The ONLY action that we should take is to gather much more Data. Anything else that we do could make either the climate or the economy worse. Reducing CO2 could push us into an Ice Age (we are overdue for one). And , JudyLou, an Ice Age is bad!

  25. Robert Says:

    While we, the great unwashed, can never understand the benevolent and caring minds of those such as Al Gore, I think I know enough to say; “Shut up Al, unless you can live as an example, and unless China and India are bound by the Kyoto Accord, scrap it!

  26. Boca4Ever Says:

    Nevermind Gore’s message about GW (not Bush, Global Warming)
    It’s true, his house is solely responsible for all of the green house gases that are changing our weather patterns.

  27. pusher robot Says:

    “If global warming is true and we do nothing, it will be the end of the human race.”

    Baloney. Not even the Goracle makes that claim and it is completely unsupported by any scientific evidence.

  28. Nashville is Talking » TCPR vs. Al Gore: A Round-Up Says:

    [...] Bob Krumm: [W]hat you might not know is that the large white West Nashville home owned by the former U.S. Senator was newly renovated to include a closed loop geothermal field in order to take advantage of the non-polluting, renewable, and clean source of heating and cooling that is contained deep within the earth. [...]

  29. Mary Mancini Says:

    I applaud Senator Frist if he did indeed install a closed loop geothermal field.

    However, the Gore’s bought an already existing house in the Belle Meade neighborhood and are modestly renovating it to include solar panels. Senator Frist, on the other hand, is doing a complete renovation that is turning his house into the largest on the block.

    Now, if he’s building his dream house using Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED)-credited materials like Forest Stewardship Council-certified (which means it comes from a well-managed forest) wood, renewable resources like bamboo for his hardwood floors and cabinets, recycled tile, recycled paper or hemplax insulation, or other green building supplies then you might have a point.

  30. bob Says:

    Mary,

    I live just a few blocks from Al Gore’s house. There wasn’t anything “modest” about the renovations done on his house. It was a massive project from the end of 2002 stretching in to 2004.

    I’ll have more to report on that subject in a few moments.

    Developing . . .

  31. LilMissIndie Says:

    #5: your grandchildren’s survival depend on people like AL GORE…

    That has got to be the most ludicrous statement I’ve heard this week. For God’s sake, get a hold of yourself.

    And I’m one of the people concerned about global warming. But the saying about glass houses comes to mind…

    While watching the Al-Gore-ass-kissathon Sunday night, it occurred to me that someone who really cares about the environment should take names at that event and check into the square footage of their mansions, their utility bills, the MPG of their limos and SUVs, their trash output…because, I mean, the Oscars DID go green this year. They said so.

  32. Bob Krumm » debunking a rather lame debunking Says:

    [...] I mentioned the renovations that both the Krumm and Gore houses recently underwent. Mary Mancini called the Gore’s home improvements “modest.” Umm . . . from someone (in the construction industry, btw) who lives in the neighborhood and daily ran by his house, let me just tell you that there was nothing modest about the renovations to the Gore household. [...]

  33. Brad Says:

    Bush’s ranch is not doing anything to protect the Edwards Aquifer because it is not even near it. As governor of Texas Bush supported pro-developer legislation that has caused significant pollution of the Edwards Aquifer.

  34. bob Says:

    Brad,

    President Bush’s ranch is in McLennan County, which is just north of Bell County where the northeastern end of the Edwards Aquifer extends. So you are correct that it does not sit above the Aquifer. However, Waco and McLennan County draw their water from the Edward-Trinity Aquifer complex, which is described as follows by the USGS:

    “The Edwards-Trinity and the Trinity aquifers are stratigraphically equivalent in part and are hydraulically connected in some places. The Edwards aquifer overlies the Trinity aquifer (fig. 79) and the two aquifers are hydraulically connected where no confining unit separates them. The ground-water flow systems and permeability of the three aquifers are sufficiently different, however, to allow them to be separately mapped and described.” Waco sits smack in the middle of the complex.

    The communities drawing water from the Aquifer complex include: “Austin, Dallas, Fort Worth-Arlington, Odessa, San Antonio, Sherman-Denison, and Waco.” By not relying upon Waco city water, or a well at his ranch, President Bush is not adding to the strained aquifer complex beneath him.

    For more information click here.

  35. Cynic Says:

    In a comment by Robert McConnell on TigerHawk
    http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2007/02/chickengreens.html#3732966511927032462

    he mentions that Gore is a founding partner and chairman of Generation Investment Management LLP, which deals in Green company stock and that his global warming hysteria is just investing in that business.

  36. Mary Mancini Says:

    Cool. Thanks for the clarification, Bob. I look forward to the update. It would be good if we could get the skinny on both construction efforts which might bring the issue to the forefront.

    We just did a remodel to our house and it is very difficult and very expensive to get LEED-certified and other environmentally-friendly building materials shipped to Tennessee.

  37. Prateek Says:

    I would like to know the kind of conservation John is carrying out… All Gore said was we need to conserve…which is right…It’s a different issue he isn’t preaching it (which is sad) but instead of screaming about it… I would like to ask John and thousands other whether you guys are conserving??? if you aren’t you have no right to question anyone else…

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  39. Tim Says:

    Since Gore created the internet, he is in fact the leader of global warming. Computers, machinery dependent on computers and industries related to the internet all use a ton of electricity. And all of the machinery throws out a lot of heat. Now with satellite access to the internet now backward countries and hard to reach places now need access using electricity. As more and more of the world becomes civilized and as Gore wants more African schools to have internet access the more heat is generated. In all actuality we want the world to be less civilized and more like the third world.

  40. Sharron Says:

    Here in Newburgh, Indiana it was not uncommon for people to pay approx. $1000 for last month’s utility bills.

    I personally don’t feel I should throw stones at anyone who’s out there trying to make a difference in the world.

    The U.S. has been giving lip service to conservation since the oil shortages of the 70′s but, I don’t see any real change in our driving habits or consumption.

    The President said in his state of the union speach that renewable fuel is a matter of national security and I STILL don’t see people scrambling to change their ways.

    I’m lucky to live in an area where biodiesel is available and I was able to find a used diesel car that I could afford. My Beetle gets 50 mpg but, I don’t judge those driving Hummers down the road.

    I agree with Robert’s statement about China and India and the Kyoto Accord but, if we ALL raise our voices the politicians WILL BE FORCED to put pressure on China and India.

    I’m tired of all the negativity and seperation between “red” and “blue” states and the attitudes. We’re living in a ‘house divided’ and that only weakens us…which makes us vulnerable.

  41. Babylon Smith Says:

    Gore created the Internet? Was that a joke?
    The U.S. military created the Internet…with all the billions Reagan increased to them in the 1980s to fight the Cold War and spy on the Russians.
    It was mostly created for Spying and sharing / storing data.
    Global Positioning was also invented by the U.S. military. Investing in the military and space almost always results in inventions that at some point, enter our economy and production down the road.
    of course, some blame that same technology on global warming but I think it has and will continue to enable folks to stay off the road and work from home.
    Why can’t Gore give his “Fight Global Warming” messages via the Interet or Video rather than fly around in his jet to each city?
    Gore should have installed Solar Panels BEFORE his movie hit the theaters! Duh!
    And NO ONE seems to know about Bush’s house in Texas… 4,000 SQFT and it’s heated and cooled by GeoThermal.. probably the best for the earth of all since to make solar tiles has some polluting effects. LIkely Bush built the home that way long ago because of the isolated area he’s in but he’s proving to be more environmentally aware than Gore by default.
    I’m more bothered by the dramatic increase of personal jets than anything else. Jet fuel is worse in every way.. in miles per gallon, the type of fuel it is and the altitude it burns is worse than auto emissions. All the Hollywood Stars and the many millionaires who fly around in their jets for leisure travel and to attend a party or premiere are contributing greatly to pollution and it would be so easy for them to just cut back!